Topic: Feedback regarding Arcadia project launched by SAS (Sumel Heights) group in sector 83 Gurgaon.

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Hi ,
I want to know about the Arcadia project launched by SAS (Sumel Heights) group in sector 82-83 Gurgaon.
Is the developer is sound enough to complete the project and its goodwill in the real estate market.

hi, i have also bkd a floor in SAS arcadia gurgaon...please share any feedback on the project. thanks!

I've also booked a floor in this project. I'm not clear about the progress of the project. They are supoosed to give us priority number after apyment of next installment. I've booked ground floor for 45 lacs and last installment paid by me was for Rs. 3,50,000,whereas I recvd the demand letter later on from Sumeil heights mentioning that I have to pay 3,25,000 as next installment.I'm confused.

I have create a google group for information sharing about this project . The people who have booked floors in this project can join this google group.

SAS Arcadia Gurgaon Sector 82/83 User Group... please join it.

I have also booked floor the floor in arcadia : here is the group details:

Group name: SAS Arcadia Gurgaon Sector 82/83 User Group
Mail id: sas-arcadia-sect8283@googlegroups.com

Hi members of Arcadia!!

I have also booked a flat there and i booked it because i was told that Medicity has booked approx 600 flats there for their doctors and this project was developed for them only. But i dont know whats the truth is.......... if any one is aware please share with all of us

Hello! Members of Arcadia,

I have recently booked a floor in Aracadia project in Sector 83 and 84. I want to join the Arcadi user group. Please can anyone inform me the process to join the group ID. My e-mail address is dilip.mehta@aes.com

thanks,
Dilip

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Hi, I have also boooked a floor in SAS project. The company is saying they will give the allotment in April. Can anyody have the update on the project. My email id is surender.sheokand@rediffmail.com. Can anybody inform me the projecess to join the group.

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Hi all I too have booked a flat in the project and am awaiting information.

Now the allotment of plots has been postponed to May 2nd week as told to me.Has anybody else any nformation regarding this.

I have booked a floor in Aracadia project in Sector 83 and 84 and want to join the Arcadi user group. Please can anyone inform me the process to join the group ID. My e-mail address is guptasaurabh82@yahoo.com

Got the letter informing that 'Bhumi Poojan' will be going to happen soon but no dates are given. I don't know when is allotment going to happen? Has anybody else any idea?

Received a letter from sumel height ( Arcadia) regarding launching new project in amritsar and bhoomi pujan of arcadia..... But they didn't mentioned the date of bhoomi pujan when its going to be happen... Is anybody know the latest update for the same please get me back to my email id ' chhabra_sunil2003@yahoo.co.in.

The latest information about the project as told by Mr. Balraj (965078855

from SAS group is as
1) Vatika has finished sewage pipe work with demarcation of boundries.
2) Good time for bhumi puja - Mid July or Aug.
3) Within 8-10 days, the site office construction of SAS will start.
4) The construction of "Sample flat" is also going to start parallel to site office work.

Dear friends please share the information if anything else you all know

Hi,
Please join the SAS arcadia google group to share all the information. You can join the group by searching sas-arcadia-sect8283@googlegroups.com and click on join.

If we click on this 'sas-arcadia-sect8283@googlegroups.com' directly, it opens an e-mail page. If this site id is types in the browser, it doesn't open up. How to become member of this site.

Hi,

i am sunithasharma

I'm not clear about the progress of the project. They are supoosed to give us priority number after apyment of next installment. I've booked ground floor for 45 lacs and last installment paid by me was for Rs. 3,50,000,whereas I recvd the demand letter later on from Sumeil heights mentioning that I have to pay 3,25,000 as next installment.I'm confused.

regards,

phe9oxis,

http://www.guidebuddha.com

hello everyone of Arcadia

did any one attended the bhoomi poojan on 08.08.2010??? organised by SAS at the sec 83, Gurgaon.

Please share the details of the bhoomi poojan with us.

Regards
OSGN

Those who booked the apartment in Arcadia sector 83/84 can join the google group to share the information about the project.
Open the given link
https://groups.google.com/group/sas-arcadia-sect8283?hl=en&lnk=\
and at right hand side click at Join the group.

hi all please update on the latest happenings on this project the bank loans are still not happening ???
stanley 9871249966

osgn wrote:hello everyone of Arcadia

did any one attended the bhoomi poojan on 08.08.2010??? organised by SAS at the sec 83, Gurgaon.

Please share the details of the bhoomi poojan with us.

Regards
OSGN

I have attended the bhoomi poojan.it was quite nice.I don't think there is any problem in project.Loan process will start in 1st week of december.but project will complete at jan'2014 according to agreement.agreement says they will start constructti2011on in jan

isnt it bullshit???
i was told during the opening ceremony that the project wud be completed by jan2011
has anyone noticed the uni-lateral agreement which they have made????
they will penalise if u delay in taking over the floor but if they dunn mk it in time theres no penalty??? why???
no date on the allotment letter?? why????/
number of other clauses if u go in detail...
i ws a fool to book wid ths company...
do u knw tht they carried out even the bhoomi poojan on others rented land????
guys i did the right thing by selling off ths fake project floor to another buyer to save my duped money....
be aware and dunn be fools by jus keep paying the money...
there opening ceremony at raddisson ggn is no guarantee of project completion....

hi

hi
everyone. yesterday i visited their office and Mr. Abishek told that they have hired a team for construction and are going to start site office and godown their in next few days.

Have SAS received all the approvals for the Project. If yes, then why have they not proposed any bankers to the Project ?

SAS only gives assurance that the project will achieve timely completion, works will commence on time etc.

Going thru the above comments, I think we r just waiting and hoping tht SAS delivers the project,.
I feel that we must be PROACTIVE in this case.
LETS ALL VISIT ARCADIA AND GET THE EXACT DETAILS FROM THEM.

I am in regular contact with Abhishek and Aman. They told at the time of allotment that papers related to bank finance will be provided within a week and III demand of 15% due date 15Dec,10 will be extended accordingly. I had been writing regularly about confirmation of bank approval but not received any reply in writing all the time verbally they say that documents desired by bank are being provided and once they scrutinise then only papers related to home finance we will be able to provide hopefully by end of January, 2011. What is truth please share at gckukreti@gmail.com

I agree, we must all visit SAS office and extract the truth,, otherwise our hardearned money will go down the drain.
gomesteri@yahoo.com

SAS had mentioend that they were in talks with HDFC for loan approvals.

I just spoke with HDFC officials, and they have informed that SAS have misquoted them.
HDFC have not received any proposal from SAS. In fact they had some initial discussions with them about 5 months ago, however, due to non-availablity of full documenttation, SAS application was refused.
SAS are just fooling the poor investors.

Hi,

Can anyone having latest update on this matter... i tried calling their mobile numbers ,,but no one is picking the call...

ARCADIA, Sumel Heights.

The formalities for transfer between Vatika and Sumel Heights have not yet been formalized.
That is why this delay..

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we should form the group and contact the builder for the right status

Please form the group asap. You may reach me on my mobile 9582030314 and enroll. Any one knows about vatika projects are they been financed by bankers. If so than why not Arcadia as they are also part of vatika 600 acres.

sharpsanjay wrote:Hi ,
I want to know about the Arcadia project launched by SAS (Sumel Heights) group in sector 82-83 Gurgaon.
Is the developer is sound enough to complete the project and its goodwill in the real estate market.

sir,
pls give ur email address ,
to make a team to proceed action plan for this irrresponible project.
gulshan

gulshanmalhotrajune@yahoo.com

mb123 wrote:hi, i have also bkd a floor in SAS arcadia gurgaon...please share any feedback on the project. thanks!

sir,
pls give ur email address ,
to make a team to proceed action plan for this irrresponible project.
gulshan

gulshanmalhotrajune@yahoo.com

renuj wrote:I've also booked a floor in this project. I'm not clear about the progress of the project. They are supoosed to give us priority number after apyment of next installment. I've booked ground floor for 45 lacs and last installment paid by me was for Rs. 3,50,000,whereas I recvd the demand letter later on from Sumeil heights mentioning that I have to pay 3,25,000 as next installment.I'm confused.

sir,
pls give ur email address ,
to make a team to proceed action plan for this irrresponible project.
gulshan

gulshanmalhotrajune@yahoo.com

Anonymous wrote:we should form the group and contact the builder for the right status

we make one team & pull aganist stupid wrong commitments & policies of sumen heights pvt ltd.

regards,

gulshan ,pls write ur email id & contact no , to make a team name ,
final one day we will meet at arcedia office ggn.

Anonymous wrote:hi
everyone. yesterday i visited their office and Mr. Abishek told that they have hired a team for construction and are going to start site office and godown their in next few days.

make stupid us , no construction is started,

regards,
gulshan

I have also booked a flat in SAS Arcadia ( Pine).
I visited the site today . . .lot of construction is happening in that zone by Vatika, Orris etc. including floors . . but the work of Arcadia has not started. on Talking to Mr Bipin (Director Matketing). i came to know that the work may not begin this year. I think we all need to know the progress etc. and the plan of action by the company.

It seems that even employees have started to tell truth that SAS group is incapable of handling this project. We should meet their management jointly and ask for a refund with the prevailing market rate in this sector.

If they don't agree that file a police compilant for cheating the people.

I also booked a floor in SAS arcadia. I am not clear about the exact status/ management decision regarding when they are going to start the construction work.
Any one know exact status?

i just called Arcadia group at +91 9650788556 / 57 / 58, no response from 1st 2 numbers, 3rd one says project is delayed by 1.5 years... when I tried to enquire more, call was purposefully disconnected... something fishy guys...

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Hi!

I have also booked Ebony IInd floor and received allotment letter last year. I been writing mails at regularly intervals past one year+ to Mr Bipin (Director Marketing) but he was never been courteous enough to respond to my querries.

Latest inputs what I gathered from Mr. Abhishek and Ms. Aman is that project is further been delayed by a year. When asked to give us in writing about

1. Reson of delay
2. Exactly when they will start construction
3. Builder is sound enough to carry project
4. Prices, should be escalation free as delay is from their end and again Arcadia is earning interest on our deposits.

They both further commented 'it's the management who has to take decision'. 'Please ask Mr. Bipin or our Managing Director' as they are the ones who has to take decision and intimate all allotees in writing.

I also learnt from reliable souces that all our deposits was invested into some new Arcadia project in Amritsar where they are in big soop finding problem to sell. How much is true I don;'t know.

Any way please keep me posted as I have also invested my hard earned money for my future living. I further request you to add me into your group/consortium.

My details are as follows:
G.C., Kukreti New Delhi
email: gckukreti@gmail.com
Mobile: 9582030314

Warm regards

GC Kukreti

Hi everyone,

I have also booked with arcadia but I am not getting any response from there side. if any body have latest information about this, please letus know me at - sjallendhra1680@gmail.com.

Regards,

S.Jallendhra

9873400467

Let all of us do dharna outside their office next week asking for refund of money as per the prevailing rates in the new sectors of Gurgaon in these sectors

Hi,

I also had booked the flat at Arcadia. I called Mr. Sanjeev few days back and he informed me that the project is delayed by 1-2 years and if needed they can refund the money at 12% interest rate.

However my concern is about mental agony and if I would have invested my hard earned money somewhere else in other project, i certainly would have received a better outcome.

After reading all the comments, I could understand we all are going through the same pain. Can we all fixup a date and time and meet Arcadia management and ensure they refund the money to us at market rate.

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I have also bought a flat, me to agree with comments, we should go together and demand the same

Dear All

Many brokers has started calling to ones having allotment letters creating panic. they are saying better opt for refund with interest or we may even organise sale to someone at nominal profits.

Seems they are retorting to hoarding so that when vatika and arcadia transfer completes may sell at exorbitant prices. Already Arcadia has not sold all flats they have released only 40%. They have yet to sell even flats above 300 sq yards.

i would request to all to approach HUDA, Haryana Govt and understand the technicalities cropped in which no one is clearly divulging.

We have invested our hard earned money they just cant run away also many had bought on premium was sold by there own appointed executives. ;please keep there name, address, mobiles handy as same will be required when police will intervene.

Regards

Dear All

Many brokers has started calling to ones having allotment letters creating panic. they are saying better opt for refund with interest or we may even organise sale to someone at nominal profits.

Seems they are retorting to hoarding so that when vatika and arcadia transfer completes may sell at exorbitant prices. Already Arcadia has not sold all flats they have released only 40%. They have yet to sell even flats above 300 sq yards.

i would request to all to approach HUDA, Haryana Govt and understand the technicalities cropped in which no one is clearly divulging.

We have invested our hard earned money they just cant run away also many had bought on premium was sold by there own appointed executives. ;please keep there name, address, mobiles handy as same will be required when police will intervene.

Regards

Hi everyone

I have also bought a flat from arcadia, in my opinion we should not take refund from arcadia and we can arrange a meeting for this purpose. Pls contact me on My e-mail ID - batraguddu@gmail.com. Mob No. 9810580927

Hi All,

This is in respect of the problem faced by the Arcadia Investors, i would request everybody to please have a meeting with the management of the SAS Arcadia.

Please let us know the suitable timing for the same.

Thanks
CA Nitin Goel
+91-9910382811

Hi Al,,

Everybody is requested to please not to take refund of their money from SAS.

We will fight.

Thanks
Nitin

Hi,

I've also booked a flat in Ebony. I also want to know whether anyone has opted for refund, if yes, then what is the procedure? What is their intention in returning the money and how can we get to know the real picture behind this. If anyone is planning to meet the Arcadia people together, please call me also. My no. is 9899500057.

Renu Jena

Hi All,

This is in respect of the meeting, we can meet at SAS Office on Sat or Sun according to the convienence with everyone.

I have also created the group on linkedin for the same purpose & i would request everybody to please join the group asap.

Thanks
CA Nitin Goel
+91-9910382811

Link for the Group:

http://www.linkedin.com/groups/SAS-Arcadia-complaint-3955103?mostPopular=&gid=3955103

HI EVERYBODY,

This message is especially for the investors of Amritsar project, they invest carefully. In Amritsar project most of investor are NRI. Hard earned money cannot spoil with fraud people.

HI friends,

My suggestion is that before meeting the Arcadia Management , all investors fix a meeting at a convenient place in Gurgaon and discuss the matter to deal with Arcadia Management. My contact no.is 8057997878

Pl fix up meeting before meeting Arcadia people to discuss the matters to be taken up with SAS Arcadia...

9810580927

Hi,
i would request you to speak to the management and understand the reason for delay of the project.To best of my knowledge , company had all the positive intentions to complete the project and that is how the whole project was sold in few days time. Just because Vatika was creating lot of rucus for them and was applying his muscle power on a smaller company (sas) , They are not given the title clearance to the company, Company if would have thought of running away, would have gone a long back... why would they have returned the money to the investor. I had invested and i have got my money back at 12 % intt rate.

dey only called me and told me about the whole thing. Would request you all to not panic and go and meet the management.

Can you give your contact number, I wud like to talk to u as I also want to take my money back but they are telling to submit original documents. Have you also submitted original papers to them or the photocopy along with application and how much time did they take to return money and what is the mode of payment(cheque or draft). Please reply soon so that I can also apply for refund at the earliest.

I have got a call from Archadia people yesterday to take back the money which I was invested. I was totally confused what to do? when they will statrt the project or the project is totally shut down, please give the details, so that I can take further action.
Regards
Dipankar

Can any one post the real truth. Rumours that Arcadia itself creating panic situation among allotees so that they take refund at nominal interest and lateron beselling at exorbitant prices.
Huda has clearly mentined that Vatika has to develop the land but they presently are do not want to carry therefore others has to wait. Ultimtely they have to develop site and provide facilities to each and every units. Seems that Arcadia and Vatika having clear understanding to delay project so that maximum will take refund and later it become difficult to repurchase than they will begin construction. Building G+2 floors will take hardly one years by then vatika will complete some of his G+ 2floors and beging providing site n& service.
At present if they sell 300 sq yard ebony land itself they will fetch more price rather than after constructing all 3 storeies.
I would request good people among allotees to intervene and stop people from having refund better wait and force them to construct asap.
Please don't fell in their trap. They seems to very serious to buy back and sell later at 3 to 4 times prices. You can easily make out at present land in sector 92 almost 5 to 6 kms away from sector 82 - 83 is going at 40,000.00 per aq yard ... today !
Some one even commented that Arcadia are greedy.

Your well wisher.

Why to take money back? Let us be unite and force them to meet the time line. These all problems are fake and falsly creaated by these builders.

I am requesting all the allotees , please dont refund back your money, the have to do this project, and they will do it very shortly, if you refund back this money, they relaunch it and sell them 5-6 times more than actual.SO REQUESTING ALL OF U PLEASE DONT REFUND BACK YOUR.

We must give wide publicity in leading newspapers, particularly in places wherever these crooks and fraudsters (SUMEL Heights) are doing business, so that prospective clients like us do not get deceived.

SUMEL HEIGHTs is coming up with another project in Gurgaon...They are still in the initial stages. We must all keep alert and publicise their fraudulent practices and stop their lauch of new project.

today i got to know that people have met with SAS managment, but no any fruitful result came out.
Is it true?

yes, u r right. Many people gathered together . Arcadia guys tols us that they are not getting the land from Vatika. I checked the same with Vatika as per them they have given the land to Arcadia. There is something going on between Arcadia nad Vatika. Seems that Arcadia wants us to refund the money and want to relaunch it at higher rates. We should all gathered together and shouldfile the case against them. Arcadia has no right to launch the project, if land is not under him. This is a fraud act and we can drah him to court. Either he should start the construction or he should pay big penality for it.

Let gets together and make a list of all who are the victims of SAS Arcadia.
If we are together then only something can happened otherwise they keep on making foll of us.
Whats all your thoughts on this?

WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST ALL TO MEET AT SOME CONVENIENT PLACE TO DECIDE AT A PLAN OF ACTION.

I SUGGEST WE ALL MEET THIS FRIDAY AT THEIR OFFICE,..ALREADY A GROUP IS VISITING THEM..

DATE - 22 JULY 2011
TIME - 10:30 AM
VENUE - SAS OFFICE

AGENDA - TO EXTRACT FROM SAS THEIR INTENTION..

Its seems like this is dull group..who are just waiting for something to happen..or let someone take the action..
..Hope your investments are safe..

We have made a group of people.Now we have mail i.d of 35 persons.On 22 nd July some nominee from our group meet to board of directors.They showed them vatika letter which says their project got delay & they appoligise for the same.But they were not interested to give clear picture about project.Some of investor has surrendered their booking which builder want.
I request you all not to surrender your booking.

Gulshan.malhotra@honda2wheelersindia.com
Ph. 09990008395

Hi,

I am one of the sufferer of this project , my self miss the meeting on 14th and 22nd due to out of station for my office work.please add in your group, my email id is dip.sara@gmail.com and please send me the updates

Regards
Dipankar
9811618064

Hi

Hi

I have also booked a flat in Arcadia. Please add me in your group. my email id is charanjit66@yahoo.com and contact No. 8057997878

Hi!

I am also an allottee. Please add me also in your group
Email: gckukreti@gmail.com
Mobile: 9582030314.

Regards
Girish Kukreti

Members/Alotees of Arcafdia

Hi!

Very bad to draw the attention of highest authority in the the country to look into the matter asap. SAS Arcadia says why asking us ask politicians they are responsisible for delay in our/your project because they are asking for more delay. we all have invested our hard earned money .They say Vatika is not supporting us seems hand in same gloves and just to delay in all respect because cost of place as on date has already gone up by four folds. Sorry! Before its too late we all allottees soon should unite and expose all land, builders mafia operational in Haryana.

Hi Guys,

Let be all united and drag this builder in court. We should ask him to give evrything in written. We don't know vatika, we have invested in Arcadia so if they are facing problem then its there fault. If he really want to give us flats that why he is not taking vatika into court , why we are sufferening. We don't have so much money to give these fraude builders. We should all gather and decide what all points which we should discuss with Arcadia. We are ready to wait but how much, we want in writing from Arcadia because we have lost oouur trust on Arcadia.

RFHFHFHFHHFGHFH

Yes, please decide date and time we should meet and take strong action now. What about meeting on 20th August.

Hi
I have also booked a flat in Arcadia. Kindly add me in your group. Pl. note my contact details:-

Name - Abhay Kashyap
Mobile no. - 9818300630
Email - abhaykumarkashyap@yahoo.com

Pl. update me about the project.

Hi

I have also booked a flat in Arcadia. My contact details are

Name : Ravish Kumar
Mob: 9999082827
Email: kr_ravish1979@yahoo.co.in

Kindly add me in your group

Hi! everybody
Some investors have already joined hands and have planned a litigation against these bunch of crooks(SAS).
Brig.Sandhal has taken up the charge and already they have consulted a lawyer and also a RTI application is being filed with DTP.One thing is for sure that this delay is deleberate attempt to shunt genuine customers away..we will surely win if we fight together..pl.note Brig.Sandhal's no.for further info 9911925758
my name is Rajiv Mehra and as all of you here I have also invested in Arcadia and am feeling cheated so lets join hands and win this battle..My no is 9811093732

Mr. Sandhal ,

Thanks for information.Our group will also file the RTI according to your information.Mr. Gulshan malhotra will coordinate with you.We need to make big group so that we can arrange the finance for further action.
We will also have meeting on sunday at 11:00 am for further discussion & clarity.

Gulshan no. 08003298248, 09990008395

excellent ! Lets we all be together. they will have to begin construction soon.
We should ask them to compensate us with interest on delayed period.

Regards

[Dear All friends,
Thanks for ur valueable support to resolve arcedia project resident issue, as i had already mail u regarding meeting on sunday dated 21st August 2011.Final Confirmation details given below.
Kindly ensure your presence at :-
Haldiram , Ground floor, Sahara Mall, (landmark- near sikanderpur metro station), M.G.Road, Gurgaon at Sunday 21st august at 11 AM ( on or before).
thanks & regards,
Gulshan Malhotra
+91-9990008395,
+91-8003298248(Offical).

Pls review points meeting on dated 22th July 2011 with Mr R.S.VIPIN (DIRECTOR) ,SAS GROUP & MR ABHISHEK (AM PROJECT PLANNING)

MEETING DATE / TIME / VENUE: Friday, July 22 , 2011 / 1100 – 1200 Hours / SAS Office, Global Business Park, Gurgaon.

TYPE OF MEETING:General Meeting with the SAS Management

MEETING AGENDA

1) To confirm from the builder if all necessary approvals have been obtained for the construction.
2) Reasons for the delay in the project and if there are any reasons which are beyond their control, asking them to show the relevant proofs
3) Builder's future plan for the project
4) Land Is in Sas Possession/Land paper.
5) What Company plan to resolve problem for delay.
6) No Write communication for sas to customer to recollect ur money from this project.
7) Why no Display ur board on land.

If vatika delay this project pls arrange meeting with vatika.
5) Misc. Issues (if any)

1) To confirm from the builder if all necessary approvals have been obtained for the construction.

Yes , they have all approval, only delay from vatika for road constructions & sewerage.

2) Reasons for the delay in the project and if there are any reasons which are beyond their control, asking them to show the relevant proofs

As mentioned in the Point No. 1, the only reason specified by the SAS Management for the delay is due to pending approvals for the construction. They also mentioned that this is something which is beyond their control as they are not the land owners. On asking to show the relevant proofs for the same, they showed a letter received from Vatika Group in which it was mentioned that approximately 58 acres of area is still pending to be licensed by Govt. for doing residential / commercial projects.

Since the letter was dated in the month of February, 2011, we asked them to show the latest communication in this regard. They said they have already given a request to Vatika to give the latest update on this and they will update us accordingly. letter sign by Gautam bhalla ( Deputy manager Director - Vatika Group).

3) Builder's future plan for the project

Untill vatika not support they will not able to start this project.
4) Land Is in Sas Possession/Land paper.
Not show land paper after request to mr R.S.Vipin ( try to close meeting when ask for land paper).
5) What Company plan to resolve problem for delay.

plan meeting with vatika , and offer customer to withdrawn money from this project , because delay for next 1.5 years to 2 years.

6) No Write communication for sas to customer to refund ur money from this project.

No able to reply why they not issue written letter to customer for refund ur money from this project.

7) Why no Display ur board on land.

They have display board number of times but broken by some one. we have suggest to constructions 4inch wall & display there company name & project.

If vatika delay this project pls arrange meeting with vatika.
Mr r.s.vipin have our business parther , they will not arrange direct meeting with vatika,if u want u direct go there & meet him. sas not support for meeting & suddenly close meeting.
They have agree to show there land location resp:- to check Mr .Vikram.

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thanks & regards,

Gulshan Malhotra
09990008395.

Dear all,

Good Morning. As i have discuss with mr. rajiv & mr. vikram , sas plan to sale his land back to vatika for withdrawn from this project.

This is very cruical issue , so we as a team discuss this issue with arcedia Mr .R.S.Vipin (director) ,for project plan prospective.

thanks for Avnish Chouddharyto arrange minutes of meeting on dated
MEETING DATE / TIME / VENUE: Saturday, June 18, 2011 / 1100 – 1200 Hours / SAS Office, Global Business Park, Gurgaon

we have plan one more meeting with arcedia to discuss this issue for land sale.

request to add team members & email to same id . if any other information in this regards pls share with every one.

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Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:55 PM
Subject: Fwd: Minutes of the Meeting - Meeting at SAS Office on Saturday, June 18 at 11 AM
To: chhabra_sunil2003@yahoo.co.in

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From: Avnish Chouddhary <ac.avnish@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 5:33 PM
Subject: Minutes of the Meeting - Meeting at SAS Office on Saturday, June 18 at 11 AM
To: sas-arcadia-sect8283@googlegroups.com

Hi All,

Thanks for joining in for this meeting.

Here are the Minutes captured in this meeting.

MEETING DATE / TIME / VENUE: Saturday, June 18, 2011 / 1100 – 1200 Hours / SAS Office, Global Business Park, Gurgaon

TYPE OF MEETING:General Meeting with the SAS Management

MEETING AGENDA

1) To confirm from the builder if all necessary approvals have been obtained for the construction
2) Reasons for the delay in the project and if there are any reasons which are beyond their control, asking them to show the relevant proofs
3) Builder's future plan for the project
4) Tie-up with the banks for Home Loan
5) Misc. Issues (if any)

MINUTES CAPTURED

1) To confirm from the builder if all necessary approvals have been obtained for the construction

SAS Management confirmed that approvals are still pending as Sec. 83-84 has not been licensed by Govt. for doing residential / commercial projects. On asking why they have been unable to get these approvals, they said that this is something which they don’t own as the land for the project is owned by Vatika Group. On asking when do they anticipate getting all the approvals, they seemed to be a little pessimistic about it and did not take any commitment on defining any time duration.

2) Reasons for the delay in the project and if there are any reasons which are beyond their control, asking them to show the relevant proofs

As mentioned in the Point No. 1, the only reason specified by the SAS Management for the delay is due to pending approvals for the construction. They also mentioned that this is something which is beyond their control as they are not the land owners. On asking to show the relevant proofs for the same, they showed a letter received from Vatika Group in which it was mentioned that approximately 58 acres of area is still pending to be licensed by Govt. for doing residential / commercial projects.

Since the letter was dated in the month of February, 2011, we asked them to show the latest communication in this regard. They said they have already given a request to Vatika to give the latest update on this and they will update us accordingly.

3) Builder's future plan for the project

SAS Management said that they have already hired the required staff (architects, contractors, etc.) for the project and they shall commence the construction as soon as the necessary approvals are obtained for the construction. However, they are not ready to take any commitment on the time frame.

4) Tie-up with the banks for Home Loan

This question was also revolved at approvals not being obtained for this project. SAS Management confirmed that banks are willing to finance the buyers in this project after all necessary approvals are submitted to them.

5) Misc. Issues (if any)

Please refer the QnA Section for this.

QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS

Q1) If you are committed in building this project, why are you asking the buyers to withdraw from the project?
SAS – We have not made it necessary for the buyers to withdraw their money from this project. However, we have just given a heads-up to the people who want an early possession so that they can look for the other alternate options.

Q2) If majority of people withdraw from the project, would you make this as a dead project?
SAS – The Management tried to beat around the bush however, on asking an objective response, they said they would still be committed in this project even if majority of people withdraw.

Q3) Why does your Management doesn’t reply on the Customers’ E-Mails? I have a lot of unanswered e-mails since last 6 months.
SAS – We’ll look into this and try our level best to be responsive all the e-mails.

Q4) Why only Sec.83-84 is pending when all other sectors have already got a sanction for the plotted development?
SAS – This is something which either Vatika Group or Govt. Officials can reply.

Q5) If the entire Sec.83-84 have not been licensed, then how come other builders like Mapsco (with their project Casabella), Vatika (with their project City Homes), etc. have commenced the construction for their projects in these sectors?
SAS – Mapsco has a high rise project and they can build their own infrastructure which is not possible in case of low rise projects and Vatika has started the construction at their own risk.

Q6) Can you give us in written that you would definitely start the construction after 2 years?
SAS – No

ACTION ITEMS

1) To confirm from a legal advisor if we can file a consumer case on the builder and if yes, on what grounds – Action Owner – Avnish Chouddhary
2) To check the details of how to file a complaint in the Economic Offence Wing (EOW) - Action Owner – Avnish Chouddhary
3) To obtain the details of all the buyers in the project - Action Owner – Nitin Goel
4) To ask the known ones who are the buyers in the project to join our Google Group – Action Owner – All

Please let me know if I missed out anything and feel free to call me at +91-9540068512 in case of any other queries.

Thanks and Regards,
Avnish Chouddhary

[Pls review points meeting on dated 22th July 2011 with Mr R.S.VIPIN (DIRECTOR) ,SAS GROUP & MR ABHISHEK (AM PROJECT PLANNING)

MEETING DATE / TIME / VENUE: Friday, July 22 , 2011 / 1100 – 1200 Hours / SAS Office, Global Business Park, Gurgaon.

TYPE OF MEETING:General Meeting with the SAS Management

MEETING AGENDA

1) To confirm from the builder if all necessary approvals have been obtained for the construction.
2) Reasons for the delay in the project and if there are any reasons which are beyond their control, asking them to show the relevant proofs
3) Builder's future plan for the project
4) Land Is in Sas Possession/Land paper.
5) What Company plan to resolve problem for delay.
6) No Write communication for sas to customer to recollect ur money from this project.
7) Why no Display ur board on land.

If vatika delay this project pls arrange meeting with vatika.
5) Misc. Issues (if any)

1) To confirm from the builder if all necessary approvals have been obtained for the construction.

Yes , they have all approval, only delay from vatika for road constructions & sewerage.

2) Reasons for the delay in the project and if there are any reasons which are beyond their control, asking them to show the relevant proofs

As mentioned in the Point No. 1, the only reason specified by the SAS Management for the delay is due to pending approvals for the construction. They also mentioned that this is something which is beyond their control as they are not the land owners. On asking to show the relevant proofs for the same, they showed a letter received from Vatika Group in which it was mentioned that approximately 58 acres of area is still pending to be licensed by Govt. for doing residential / commercial projects.

Since the letter was dated in the month of February, 2011, we asked them to show the latest communication in this regard. They said they have already given a request to Vatika to give the latest update on this and they will update us accordingly. letter sign by Gautam bhalla ( Deputy manager Director - Vatika Group).

3) Builder's future plan for the project

Untill vatika not support they will not able to start this project.
4) Land Is in Sas Possession/Land paper.
Not show land paper after request to mr R.S.Vipin ( try to close meeting when ask for land paper).
5) What Company plan to resolve problem for delay.

plan meeting with vatika , and offer customer to withdrawn money from this project , because delay for next 1.5 years to 2 years.

6) No Write communication for sas to customer to refund ur money from this project.

No able to reply why they not issue written letter to customer for refund ur money from this project.

7) Why no Display ur board on land.

They have display board number of times but broken by some one. we have suggest to constructions 4inch wall & display there company name & project.

If vatika delay this project pls arrange meeting with vatika.
Mr r.s.vipin have our business parther , they will not arrange direct meeting with vatika,if u want u direct go there & meet him. sas not support for meeting & suddenly close meeting.
They have agree to show there land location resp:- to check Mr .Vikram.

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thanks & regards,

Gulshan Malhotra
09990008395.

Dear all,

Good Morning. As i have discuss with mr. rajiv & mr. vikram , sas plan to sale his land back to vatika for withdrawn from this project.

This is very cruical issue , so we as a team discuss this issue with arcedia Mr .R.S.Vipin (director) ,for project plan prospective.

thanks for Avnish Chouddharyto arrange minutes of meeting on dated
MEETING DATE / TIME / VENUE: Saturday, June 18, 2011 / 1100 – 1200 Hours / SAS Office, Global Business Park, Gurgaon

we have plan one more meeting with arcedia to discuss this issue for land sale.

request to add team members & email to same id . if any other information in this regards pls share with every one.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Vickey Gomes <gomes.vickey@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:55 PM
Subject: Fwd: Minutes of the Meeting - Meeting at SAS Office on Saturday, June 18 at 11 AM
To: chhabra_sunil2003@yahoo.co.in

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Avnish Chouddhary <ac.avnish@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 5:33 PM
Subject: Minutes of the Meeting - Meeting at SAS Office on Saturday, June 18 at 11 AM
To: sas-arcadia-sect8283@googlegroups.com

Hi All,

Thanks for joining in for this meeting.

Here are the Minutes captured in this meeting.

MEETING DATE / TIME / VENUE: Saturday, June 18, 2011 / 1100 – 1200 Hours / SAS Office, Global Business Park, Gurgaon

TYPE OF MEETING:General Meeting with the SAS Management

MEETING AGENDA

1) To confirm from the builder if all necessary approvals have been obtained for the construction
2) Reasons for the delay in the project and if there are any reasons which are beyond their control, asking them to show the relevant proofs
3) Builder's future plan for the project
4) Tie-up with the banks for Home Loan
5) Misc. Issues (if any)

MINUTES CAPTURED

1) To confirm from the builder if all necessary approvals have been obtained for the construction

SAS Management confirmed that approvals are still pending as Sec. 83-84 has not been licensed by Govt. for doing residential / commercial projects. On asking why they have been unable to get these approvals, they said that this is something which they don’t own as the land for the project is owned by Vatika Group. On asking when do they anticipate getting all the approvals, they seemed to be a little pessimistic about it and did not take any commitment on defining any time duration.

2) Reasons for the delay in the project and if there are any reasons which are beyond their control, asking them to show the relevant proofs

As mentioned in the Point No. 1, the only reason specified by the SAS Management for the delay is due to pending approvals for the construction. They also mentioned that this is something which is beyond their control as they are not the land owners. On asking to show the relevant proofs for the same, they showed a letter received from Vatika Group in which it was mentioned that approximately 58 acres of area is still pending to be licensed by Govt. for doing residential / commercial projects.

Since the letter was dated in the month of February, 2011, we asked them to show the latest communication in this regard. They said they have already given a request to Vatika to give the latest update on this and they will update us accordingly.

3) Builder's future plan for the project

SAS Management said that they have already hired the required staff (architects, contractors, etc.) for the project and they shall commence the construction as soon as the necessary approvals are obtained for the construction. However, they are not ready to take any commitment on the time frame.

4) Tie-up with the banks for Home Loan

This question was also revolved at approvals not being obtained for this project. SAS Management confirmed that banks are willing to finance the buyers in this project after all necessary approvals are submitted to them.

5) Misc. Issues (if any)

Please refer the QnA Section for this.

QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS

Q1) If you are committed in building this project, why are you asking the buyers to withdraw from the project?
SAS – We have not made it necessary for the buyers to withdraw their money from this project. However, we have just given a heads-up to the people who want an early possession so that they can look for the other alternate options.

Q2) If majority of people withdraw from the project, would you make this as a dead project?
SAS – The Management tried to beat around the bush however, on asking an objective response, they said they would still be committed in this project even if majority of people withdraw.

Q3) Why does your Management doesn’t reply on the Customers’ E-Mails? I have a lot of unanswered e-mails since last 6 months.
SAS – We’ll look into this and try our level best to be responsive all the e-mails.

Q4) Why only Sec.83-84 is pending when all other sectors have already got a sanction for the plotted development?
SAS – This is something which either Vatika Group or Govt. Officials can reply.

Q5) If the entire Sec.83-84 have not been licensed, then how come other builders like Mapsco (with their project Casabella), Vatika (with their project City Homes), etc. have commenced the construction for their projects in these sectors?
SAS – Mapsco has a high rise project and they can build their own infrastructure which is not possible in case of low rise projects and Vatika has started the construction at their own risk.

Q6) Can you give us in written that you would definitely start the construction after 2 years?
SAS – No

ACTION ITEMS

1) To confirm from a legal advisor if we can file a consumer case on the builder and if yes, on what grounds – Action Owner – Avnish Chouddhary
2) To check the details of how to file a complaint in the Economic Offence Wing (EOW) - Action Owner – Avnish Chouddhary
3) To obtain the details of all the buyers in the project - Action Owner – Nitin Goel
4) To ask the known ones who are the buyers in the project to join our Google Group – Action Owner – All

Please let me know if I missed out anything and feel free to call me at +91-9540068512 in case of any other queries.

Thanks and Regards,
Avnish Chouddhary

HI

I AM ALSO MEMBER OF ARCADIA PROJECT. PLEASE ADD MY NAME MOBILE NO. AND MAIL ADDRESS IN YOUR GROUP

NAME USHA
MOBILE NO. 9811128230
E.MAIL usha@orientalinsurance.co.in

thanksa

Dear all,

As per our meeting i contacted to Vatika group & response is attached below for your information.

Which is little positive.

Dear Mr. Raheja,

Development and construction on the plots, whether it belongs to Sumel Heights or Vatika have been affected by the lay out of the sector roads and non acquisition of the 24 metre roads by the government. Unless the government acquires the 24 metre roads, which was scheduled for February 2011, it is difficult to develop plots because one does not know how to facilitate the layouts. A developer cannot risk construction without the alignment of the roads because the government will not grant any flexibility in the road layouts.

We anticipate that it might take upto six months for thr government to complete their acquisition of the roads. It might be sooner but I am giving you a conservative estimate at this point.

Warm Regards,

Gautam Bhalla
Deputy Managing Director
Vatika Limited
4th Floor, Vatika Triangle
Sushant Lok Phase I
Gurgaon, Haryana

Dear All,

I have also mailed to gulshan Malhotra the above mail so that he can circulate to everyone.

I have also discussed the case with Mr. Mohammad yusuf (head of Town planning gurgaon) he was asking for the advertisement on basis of which we booked floor.which i submitted to him. reply is pending ( communication mail i have already forward to gulshan)
RTI is already filed. RTI application no. is given to gulshan

All this information gulshan will mail to all of you.

Regards,

Amit Raheja

Regards,

Amit Raheja

Dear Amit Raheja,

Appreciate your efforts and also keeping us updated on the developments.

thanks,
Vickey

Dear Mr. Raheja,

Thanks for your reply and updating us on the progress. Whenever you have further meeting please call me also in that meeting

Regards,
Mohinder Kumar
9717918927

Dear Mr. Raheja, Chaudhary,

Thanks for your efforts to get updates from the concerned parties and sharing same with all of us who are affected.

Regards,
Jitender Kumar
9971790074
jitender_gsm@yahoo.com

Hi Amit,

We are very thankfull to you for taking initiative and for updating us. Now atlease there seems some hopes.

Regards
Chinu

VATIKA is more transparent than SAS.
Despite several meetings with SAS top management and staff, they have never revealed much / tried to confuse the full issue.

Hi everybody
My sincere request to you all is to stay together as our unity will definitely yield positive results..I've just come to know that some members are planning a meet on 4th sept may be at Haldiram to chalk out further course of action.we all should fight together as SAS would never want this to happen..Thanks Mr.Raheja,Mr.Amit and everybody else who are working for this common cause..
Rajiv Mehra..9811093732

Dear All,

There is still no reply of RTI & Even from town planning deptt.
I am sending repetitive mails to Mr. yusuf (head of town planning)Till now reply is like this.But i think we should meet on sunday for further action.Next step should be arrange the meeting with Board of directors of SAS group because we haven't given money to vatika.They should show clear picture to us.Otherwise we will issue showcause notice to SAS.

Amit Raheja

Dear Amit,

I hope that before any investment of your hard earned money you must have checked the approval of project, building plans.You may now enquire form the coloniser abour the same, the answer lies there.

Please supply the copy of the advertisement on the basis of the which you booked the floor.

(Yusuf Mohammed.Mansuri)

Senior Town Planner,
Gurgaon Circle Gurgaon

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